There’s only so much that a person can hold before everything collapses.” With Presence now in theaters, Vogue spoke to Liu and Liang about preparing for their unconventional film—and their own relationships to the paranormal.

Steven Soderbergh’s directorial credits include Erin Brockovich, Traffic, Ocean’s Eleven, and Magic Mike. His latest, Presence, is a supernatural thriller shot entirely in the first-person perspective using a Sony Alpha 9 III mirrorless camera.

Since his flirtation with retirement about a decade ago, filmmaker Steven Soderbergh has been working at an almost feverish pace, cranking out film after film, usually genre exercises made swiftly, with light,